Asano
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 Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 12:39 am Post subject:
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Sounds like your in the midst gathering research to write some kind of paper...and apologies in advance if my replies are...well, quite frankly crap...
The idea of combining heroes seems like a pretty cool idea to me...I mean in the sense of LXG where they are known heroes and come together straight away not after LXG 10 has been made if you catch my drift....normally films introduce extra characters cos the formula is getting weak .e.g. Batman and Robin...? - supposidly robin was meant to be introduced in part 1 but there simply wasnt the screen time for it....
BUT...if you gather a bunch of cool characters, with their own backgrounds and motivations etc i think it makes for a good film...in a slightly more obscure reference the film Ronin does that quite well...even though they are not well known characters like Captain Nemo or whatever, what Im getting at is if the characters all united for a common purpose and all have their own agenda which influences the outcome of the film I think that is very cool...BUT all in all making like that that works all depends on the script!
As for the nostalgia thing...going back to LXG...I remember seeing 20000 leagues under the sea when i was younger and the fact that captain nemo was in LXG with this awesome looking nautilus was quite an exciting prospect despite the arguably lightweight focus placed on his character....similarly with Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde...I read the books years ago and seeing such a character(s) amongst the rest of the LXG was quite interesting to see....
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Mercury
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:31 pm Post subject:
Re: Joining together several "heroes"
Subject description: My two cents:-)
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| Urban Legend wrote: | What do you think of the idea of joining together several "heroes" in one story ?
I mean it's more and more common to see this kind of thing. You take more or less old “Heroes” and you put them together to make a new story.
Do you thinks it's the symptom of a lack of inspiration from the authors ? Or do you believe this is the natural evolution of things ?
Is it doing "new" things with "old" ones ? Or “recycling” ?
Or is it really an improvement or a new way to imagine new stories ? Combining the forces of different characters can lead to new stories and potentials.
Can using already known characters also be a way to stimulate the memories of the audience? Stirring feelings of nostalgia by showing them the heroes of their childhood ? |
I have to agree with all of the above. I honestly think it depends on the creators of the films, the writers and directors, especially.
As far as comic books go, I've never been a fan myself on allowing one universe to merge with another. I don't have any good reason for it, except that it's always bothered me to the point of upset. So I've always stayed away from those comics. I'm a snob in that area, I guess I deserve to be called a snooty little purist.
But with something like "The League . . ."---well, now, that's different. These are for the most part, very serious literary characters---when they "re-created" or "reborn" the expectations from the audience is going to be very, very different, than if you merge comic heros from, say, DC and Marvel.
Not only are the expectations going to be different, I say there is no way of knowing HOW the audience will react!! There is no way of knowing.
I think there is a better shot at guessing the reaction of an audience with traditional comic book hero's (and the acceptance level) than there will be with classic literary characters.
I"m not sure why. This might sound lame, but perhaps a small part might be because with a novel, there are no illustrations to aid the reader in understanding and "seeing" the mind of the author. Because basically, any book is actually the mind of the author, but novels especially capture our imaginations. The author is always, always there. With a comic or graphic novel, you "forget" about the writer for the most part.
So, personal reactions to a story aside, with a comic or any well-illustrated book, you're guided by a pretty strong hand in how to feel---or at least, how to react from the gut for the moment---whereas with the novel, you're going to have an audience who already has a view, an image, a mindset and a liking or disliking for the thoughts and even morals of the author. A reader is all but forced to create a virtual world for himself and by himself.
Now you go turn those literary characters they "know" so well into a film with a possible 180 degree change. More than that, you're going to tell them how they're going to think. Hah-hah. Good luck in second-guessing this new audience, many of them big readers. 
Maybe another part of the difficulty of trying to guess an audience reaction with the films that involve literary characters is that to put these characters together, on film, and in a comic-book style fashion is somewhat taboo.
This is both attractive and repulsive. I would say that both are pretty much a guarantee for bringing in the first wave of an audience.
The staying power of the film is the problem. I think that rather than this problem being on the part of a director or writer or flood or studio, maybe it's simply because this is a new, "virgin" area of film.
And if the audience go crackers and throws tomatoes, then that ain't bad. |
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